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Every Load Carries Two Prices

When canola futures broke $800 in October 2026, basis got $5 better. John DePape on why the two prices in every load deserve two decisions.

October 22, 2026 · With John DePape

When canola futures broke through $800 in October 2026, basis got $5 better. Same load. Two prices. Moving in opposite directions.

That small move is the best way into what John DePape told the Coffee Talk on October 22. The number on the elevator board looks like one price. It's really two, and they answer to different things. Futures answer to the wider world: funds, vegetable oil, even river levels in Europe. Basis answers to what's close to home: how full the crusher's book is, what freight costs, and how hard farmers are selling.

Most of the trouble, John argued, comes from treating them as one decision. Farmers at harvest are their own worst enemies, in his telling, selling heavily without paying attention to basis. The other side of the table watches little else. Crushers are for-profit businesses, and they trade basis and spreads while farmers focus on the flat price.

Where things stood on October 22

45 under
October crusher basis: 50 under
Country elevator basis: $287
Board crush margin: 2nd
Canola deliveries to week eight

Those numbers will go stale. How they moved is the useful part. John sold some futures on the run above 820, a level he saw as an attractive selling point. Then came the wash-out. Low river levels in Europe drove up barge freight and depressed rapeseed prices, funds rolled out of November, canola followed soybean oil down, and $800 support broke. John called that correction healthy for the long term.

Fig. 1What pushed on each half of the price in October 2026, as John laid it out. Most of what hit futures started far from the Prairies.

Why strong oil demand stops short of your basis

Here's the puzzle. Biofuel growth has oil demand extremely high, and John had board crush margins at $287. So why was basis weak?

His answer is a bottleneck. Oil demand can keep climbing, but seed demand stops at what the plants can press. John and Dean worked from 14 million tons of crush capacity. Canola Council figures raised on the call put it at 15 million. Either way there's a ceiling, and in October it was fully booked, right as deliveries ran second highest in 15 years.

Fig. 2The bottleneck John described. Oil demand sits on the far side of the press. Your load sits on the near side, in line with everyone else's.

So crushers favoured November and December basis over October. One view on the call was that processors push prices down to capture harvest supply. John's reply was that basis stays low because farmers keep selling without looking at it. Both can be true, and only one of them is in a farmer's hands.

John took the same plain view of trade. With China holding a 14% tariff on Canadian canola and buying more seed from Australia, John's view was that global flows tend to reroute rather than pile up massive carry-outs.

Two clocks on one load

John's expectation on the day was firm: high seasonal freight rates will come down, and basis will improve later. He and Dean agreed that managing the two separately lets a farmer catch gains both ways, on flat price when the market runs up and on basis recovery when it falls back.

The tools were ordinary ones. Hedges rolled forward, like November at a 14-under spread, to add to returns. Orders parked on basis targets, which John said farmers favour.

Fig. 3How John described working a load: each half of the price gets its own timing, and they only meet at delivery.

Spreads are worth reading while you wait. John treats them as reliable market signals. The May/July spread started out inverted, which said poor crop, and moved to 120 under, which said the market had grown more comfortable with yields. That isn't the same as knowing the crop. Asked about production, John said yields remained highly variable, and his personal estimate was slightly below average.

Wheat shows the same split

The thinking carried straight into 2027 wheat. New crop prices sat near $8, which reads fine on its own. Basis told a different story.

2027 wheat basis, quoted well short of $1.60New crop prices near $8, as discussed on October 22, 2026.

See the numbers

	Basis, dollars per bushel
Quoted around	50 cents over
Instead of	$1.60

John's view on the day was that the futures could be dealt with and basis could wait, because of the risk that comes with fluctuating grades. That was one read of one market. The split is what lasts.

The board isn't the market

John and Dean both pushed back on the idea that the posted elevator price is the true market. Target contracts often show where the market really is. John's bigger frustration was grade discounts and protein spreads, which are hard to see, and he said companies are reluctant to share grade spread data even with analysts.

Base grades differ, too. John noted Cargill's is 2/13 where most other buyers use 1/13.5, so two bids may not be pricing the same wheat. Contract details matter just as much. One farmer tried to lock in a grade spread by having the company cancel and rewrite a contract, rather than locking the spread itself. Another avoided a penalty by applying an overage against someone else's underage. It pays to know the terms well enough to ask.

Freight is the other place to push. Bids shared on the call showed the range: $7.79 for November at Plenty, $8.50 for a 13 protein at Provost. Elevators around Kindersley and Rosetown point to return freight to Saskatoon to justify big discounts, but the point made on the call was that the actual freight difference doesn't support a 70-cent-a-bushel spread.

Fig. 4Bids and freight from the October 22, 2026 call. Town positions are approximate.

Five questions for the next load

1
Which half am I pricing?
Futures, basis or both. If it's both, why today?
2
Is this delivery month full?
A booked month and the next one can carry different basis.
3
What's the base grade?
And what are the grade and protein spreads against it?
4
What does the freight really cost?
Hold it up against the spread you're being quoted.
5
What would a target show?
A target contract can reveal a level the posted price doesn't.

The call ended on bigger things: US debt, interest rates, the dollar. Views ran in both directions, so Dean parked it for a session of its own. John's point was narrower and more useful. Rate hikes aren't yet in crusher basis, because crushers work on a two-to-three-month horizon. A better question came from the group: what are your options are if commodity prices, currencies or rates move? Dean is setting up a planning session on that after the US election, and he plans to track protein spreads by company while the group compiles regional freight rates.

Worth keeping

Every cash price is two prices. That's two decisions.
Oil demand only reaches your bin as fast as a crusher can press.
Spreads show what the market really thinks.
A posted price is where you start. Ask about the basis, the grade and the freight.